Descendants of Joseph Engel
portrait of Sophia
Wurzberger
Engel
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Our ancestor, Siegfried Joseph Thannhauser's
grandfather, Joseph Engel was born ca. 1775 d: June 26,
1850 in Munich, Bavaria. He married Sophia Wurzberger and
according to family lore had 14 children, of whom 7 came to
America. Our family stayed close to the children of Isaak who
lived in Boston and this portrait came from the last of them,
Aunt Sylvia, to Aunt Trudi Beyer who has it today. Listed at the
bottom of this page are the children of Joseph for whom we have
records, click on the underlined name to go to the record for
that person.
Below are the portraits that our ancestor Joseph Thannhauser
referred to as his "Engel Aunts", the sisters of our ancestress
Henriette Engel. These hang in Stasi Thannhauser Dunau's Dining
Room. Unfortunately we do not know which one is which. There is a
family story about them not getting into King Ludwig's gallery of
beauties because they were Jewish which I doubt the veracity of
for two reasons 1) they are not pretty enough 2) there is a
Jewish woman in that gallery (which I visited), the daughter of a
"Court Jew." Click on any one picture to get a larger version in
a separate window.
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According to family lore, Joseph and his wife rescued Lola
Montez, the king's mistress, from a crowd of angry demonstraters
and received the right to live outside the Jewish ghetto from the
grateful King Ludwig as a result. There is a story in her
biography of how she climbed the wall of the shop she was in in
order to escape angry student demonstrators and then was rescued
by the people on the other side, but no names were
mentioned.
The document of the
marriage of our ancestress Henriette ("Retta") to Joseph
Thannhauser show her as 33, quite old, when she married. Family
lore is that she died in childbirth, but the records indicate she
died 11 months later, perhaps it was complications resulting from
childbirth. Aunt Trudi says the large Thannhauser head always
gave the women problems. Henriette died at 35, after being
married a mere 2 years. She is buried in the Old Jewish Cemetary,
ThalkirchnerStr 240, Munich, Germany.
Her father, Joseph, is buried in the Old
Jewish Cemetary also, although they were unsure which of three headstones was his grave at the
time of my visit (we were in a hurry to catch our plane, perhaps
with more time). If anyone can tell from the Hebrew which it is,
please email
me the answer! Their records are the source of his death date
and approximate birth date since he was 65 at the time of his
death. It is interesting how many of our ancestors lived into
their 60s, 70s, and 80s back when this was uncommon.
- Henriette Engel marriage record p.1 marriage record p.2 marriage
record headings
b: August 29, 1821 in Au, Germany
d: December 31, 1856 in Munich, Germany
married Abraham Thanhauser b: January 23, 1824 in
Moenchsdeggingen, Bavaria
m: November 19, 1854 in Munich Synagogue
d: December 20, 1888 in Munich, Germany, one child:
- Josef Solomon Thannhauser b: January 28, 1856 in Munich,
Germany
d: January 28, 1917 in Munich, Germany
- Babette Engel marriage record p.1 marriage record p.2
b: August 23, 1822
married Moses Reichenberger b: January 15, 1798
m: July 07, 1846 in Munich Synagogue
- Daniel Engel b: March 08, 1826
- Baruch Engel birth
record p.1 birth record
p.2 b: June 20, 1828
- Benjamin Engel birth
record p.1 birth record
p.2
- Nathan Engel ???
birth record p.1 birth record p.2 b: November 02,
1829
- Jacob Engel ???
birth record p.1 birth record p.2 b: November 27,
1831
- Loeb Engel birth record
p.1 birth record p.2 b:
October 18, 1834
- Isaac Engel b: 1837 in Bavaria
d: April 04, 1907 in Jamaica Plains, Boston, MA
+Claire
- Bella Engel b: 1856
- Joseph Engel b: June 21, 1857 in Boston, MA
- Linda Engel b: March 03, 1860
- Albert W. Engel b: July 03, 1862 in Boston, MA
d: August 31, 1936 in Boston, MA
- Sylvia Engel b: October 25, 1863 in 2 Carlton Place, Boston,
MA
d: 1960
- Esther Engel b: August 02, 1866
Copyright © 2001 Kitty Munson
Cooper